The Supplement Den: Horleys Ice Whey 3.0kg FAQs

Answer: Definately, while that seems like a basic stack it is still the most effective. Protein, creatine and a test booster will always give you solid results at a reasonable cost.

Question 4: Does this product contains lactose?

(Posted: 6th Feb, 2006)

Answer: Yes, but only a tiny amount. 0.1g per 100g.

Question 5: How many carbs does this product contain per 100g?

(Posted: 22nd Feb, 2006)

Answer: Vanilla is 0.8g
Chocolate is 1.2g

Question 6: How does this product compare to Syn-tec ( Synthesis ) with Syntec including 3grams of creatine per serve?

(Posted: 2nd May, 2006)

Answer: Ice is a pure Isolate Protein, while the Synthesis is a Concentrate. The Synthesis has more added into the powder so makes for a more convient choice.

Question 7: I have Been looking at changing protein powders ive been using musashi 92% to date, but find the choice enormeous what would u recomend as the best post work out protein that can be taken during the day as well. Been considering Horleys Ice whey? thanks for ur time?

(Posted: 9th May, 2006)

Answer: Ice is a persoanl favourite for post workout, also can be used during the day. Tastes great and mixes up really well.

Question 8: Could you use Ice Whey as a meal supplement for lunch? I want as much muscle gain as possible, without increasing my body fat. I can only go to gym 3 times a week?

(Posted: 10th May, 2006)

Answer: Yes you can, but i wouldn't recommend it. Carbs are useful to protect protein being converted to energy and used for fuel. Low GI carbs will add in building lean muscle. Most people make the mistake of reducing carbs too much when they start a weight loss diet.

Question 9: What is better for muscle mass gains ice whey or awesome mass?

(Posted: 19th July, 2006)

Answer: Awesome mass is better for guys who have trouble gaining muscle, but the Ice is better for quality gains in athletes that are looking for lean gains.

Question 10: What is the Protein, Carb, Sugar and Fat per 100 grams? Cheers?

(Posted: 10th Oct, 2006)

Answer: Protein:90.3g
Carbs: 1.2g
Sugars: 0.2g
Fats: 1.2g

Question 11: I'm thinking of stripping the fat and going on a very low carb diet. The only sources of carbs will be from vegetables and fruit. I would however, like to get more muscle WHILE losing the fat, so I have decided to boost my protein intake and lower the carbs. Will this Horley's Ice be the best option? What other powders would you recommend? I would also like to take the protein not only after workouts, but also during the day too?

(Posted: 2nd Nov, 2006)

Answer: Hoerleys Ice is an excellent protein. Make sure you take in some carbs post training to replace glycogen store or else you could get very weak.

Also consider syn-tec nitro plex or Syntrax Matrix for a sustained release protein for through the day. However if you protein meals are regular, Ice should work very well.

Question 12: I go to the gym 5 times a week alternating between cardio and weight training. I am 5ft 10 and approx 70kg and I am wanting to loss body fat while gaining lean mass. What combination of products would you suggest for the best results?

(Posted: 22nd Jan, 2007)

Answer: Sorry for the late reply, our FAQ's weren't updating to the site.
I would switch from the Ice to the Ripped Factors and then add in Scorch, Lipo 6, Hydroxycut hardcore or dymetadrine xtreme. Keep your diet high in clean proteins and low in carbs in the evening and eat at least 5 meals a day.

Question 13: Im thinking of buying ice or ripped which one would be better for muscle growth and to loose the flabby belly and what creatine would be a good match for these two products?

(Posted: 3rd Feb, 2007)

Answer: Ripped would be great but not good to use with creatine as it is a diuretic. Ice would be better for lean muscle gain with creatine.

Question 14: Hi, I have been using vp2 for a while now with good strength gains. I have read good reports about Horleys ICE, are the two comparable?

(Posted: 11th March, 2007)

Answer: Yes the 2 are comparable and people change from one to the other. It is difficult to say which is best overall, as both have their followers. We highly recommend both VP2 & the Horleys Ice, so perhaps give the Ice a try if you are looking for a change.

Question 15: Hi,

Does this product contain any artificial sweeteners at all (ie. not just aspartame. Thanks?

(Posted: 13th April, 2007)

Answer: Just sweetner 955 - sucralose.

Question 16: Can you mix ice whey with hot water instead of cold?

(Posted: 20th April, 2007)

Answer: NO!! It will denature the protein and make it totally useless.

Question 17: How much protein in a single serve of ice?

(Posted: 27th April, 2007)

Answer: In chocolate (the lowest protein content) it is 30.3g of protein from a 33.5g serve.

Question 18: I have hamechromotosis a large build up of iron which im being treated for does ice whey isolate contain any iron?

(Posted: 7th June, 2007)

Answer: None that is listed.

Question 19: With regard to the above question on hotwater, i mix up a shake of horleys ice before i go to the gym (with regular tap water) to take after training, will this unchilled water denature the protein?

(Posted: 1st August, 2007)

Answer: Hot water will, room temp water will not.

Question 20: Looking to try this, had it in the small bottles and found it tasted awesome. Mixed wel etc, and I've tried most. Anyhow also looking to take Musashi Creatine Recovery stack, would that be okay to take post workout follwed by the Ice Whey. Cheers. Visiting your store soon to get some. Thanks?

(Posted: 13th Sept, 2007)

Answer: Yes, this is an excellent stack. You can also mic the Raspberry and the Choclate together an it tastes very nice.

Question 21: On some labels it says to add water or non fat milk. Which one is better?
Does water absorb quicker?

Thanks for your time?

(Posted: 26th Sept, 2007)

Answer: Water = Faster as there is no casein to slow absorbtion;
Millk = More calories (which is not always a bad thing) and tastes heaps better, but the casein will slow absorbtion.

Question 22: Ive been stacking no explode, cellmass, and nitrix, ive had aswome resluts in strength and a little bit of size would you recommend stacking horleys ice with thses products?

(Posted: 28th Sept, 2007)

Answer: Yes, or Free Form Amino Acids.

Question 23: I go to gym 5 times a week, 2 days cardio, 3 days weights. I weigh 90kg & am 6". Want to gain muscle but stay reasonably lean. Looking at this product. Is it suitable or would there be something better?

(Posted: 17th Oct, 2007)

Answer: Perfect protein choice in my opinion.

Question 24: Im starting to go to the Gym regularly now. I currently use Bsc Recvovery and am looking for a better source of protein. I weigh 90kg, but am only 5'10" and trying to cut down on carbs in order to loose weight. Would this product be suited to my needs? can it be used to replace meals?

(Posted: 25th Oct, 2007)

Answer: Yes, this is a great powder.

I hate using ANY powder to replace meals...but if you had to... a Musashi P40 at best or an International Protein Synergy 5 at worst, could be used.

Question 25: Ive bought this product, but no where on the package does it say what the recommended intake is. E.g. should i take some before a work out and after? what do you think is the best way?

(Posted: 1st Nov, 2007)

Answer: I do recommend taking ICE an hour before training and directly after training. It can also be used through out the day between meals if your protein intake is inadequate.

Question 26: I'm considering ICE as my post workout protein as well as a sustained release protein like Aussie Bodies' product for throughout the day and before bed protein. Whats your thoughts on this??

(Posted: 6th Nov, 2007)

Answer: Sounds good. We dont stock Aussie bodies at present but do stock other sustained release powders like international Synergy 5, Musashi 92, BSN Syntha-6.

Question 27: My sister trains 4-5 times per week, generally cardio and x-training sessions. Would you recommend horleys ice as a suitable protein supplement to assist her with her training. She is 167cm tall and weighs approx 56kg and has no desire to get any bigger. I was considering this product purely to aid in recovery and provide necessary protein for her continued training?

(Posted: 14th Nov, 2007)

Answer: Yes. If she keeps her carb level to a moderate level and only uses the protein after a workout it should not increase muscle mass. Muscle mass is gained with weight training excercises, high colarie diets and hormone levels (on average it is six times harder for women to gain muscle than men).

Question 28: I’ve been using ICE Whey for about 2 years now, having a protein shake morning and night (always immediately after a workout), and have added some lean muscle mass. However I am wondering whether I should be using a WPC or WPI/WPC Blend with added Carbs immediately after a workout for faster absorption, and save the WPI for a pre-bed snack, for slower absorption. Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions for suitable products?

(Posted: 19th Nov, 2007)

Answer: Your methodology is excellent but WPI is the fastest of all protein and the only way to get faster absorption is through Free from amino acids (FFAA's). I would add in some carbs (at least the same amount as protein) post workout to increase muscle growth. Perhaps go for a sustained release protein like Matrix, Musashi 92 or International Synergy 5 for throughout the day and pre bed protein. These protein digest over a 5-6 hour period.

Question 29: In my post workout shakes, I often add frozen berries and a small amount of oatmeal – are these suitable for carbs, or should I be adding another product to amp it up a bit?

(Posted: 20th Nov, 2007)

Answer: These are great quality carbs but some may argue a bit too low GI. Perhaps add in Banana's with Rice milk to bump up the speed of glycogen replenishment and stop the protein from being oxidised.

Question 30: I am 171cm and weigh 60kg (5% BF) so I'm quite lean. I have been workingout for about a year now but for the past few months I havent had much gains as I previously did. I have been using Musashi Bulk pre+post workout and was thinking to start using a WPI protein such as ICE for post workout and continue to use Musashi Bulk as part of my breakfast/pre-workout supplement. Also, I normallyhave a highcarb meal after working out. Would you recommend ICE or should I stick to Musashi Bulk for my postworkout?

(Posted: 23rd Nov, 2007)

Answer: There is a lot of merit behind using a carb/protein blend post training. With a pure Protein (Ice) you may oxidise much of the protein for energy and loose much of the anabolic effect you should get.

Ice with a carb source would be the best bet, but then you would have to buy carbs separately.

Question 31: I’m a 43 yr old male, 173 cm tall and weigh 64 kg. I like running (have run three half-marathons) but would also like to bulk up a little bit. I have tried both Horleys and BSC WPI products and find them agreeable as I’m lactose intolerant. I’m also taking 3 caps of Protobolan a day. Is a WPI product the best supplement for me and if so which brand/product would you rate as the best value for money?

(Posted: 7th Dec, 2007)

Answer: Yes, this product is fine but i would add some more carbs to the protein for increasing mass. Banana's and rice milk are fine or you can buy Carbo-plex or Extreme carbs if you think that would be better. I would take at least as many carbs as protein around training times.

Take your protobolan before weights and before bed on training days and in the morning and before bed on non training days.

Question 32: I'm 34 yr old male, 170 cm tall, weigh 84 kg.
I go to the gym 4 days p/week. I started taking ICE WHEY almost a month now and I can see ICE WHEY helps me to recover quickly from post training and gain lean muscle. Also, I take only carbs during the period of workout day to give me energy, but I try to keep cabs at minimum when not working out in the gym.

I take ICE WHEY 5 times p/day:
During breakfast
Lunch time
Dinner
Snack
Before bed time

Am I taking ICE WHEY excessively? Also, why ICE WHEY is not recommended with product with amino acid? What's the consequence if you do take ICE WHEY with Creatine product that has some amino acid? ICE WHEY and Creatine, is that a good combination to gain lean muscle quickly?

(Posted: 8th Jan, 2008)

Answer: It is a little excessive. Pre and post workout is a must, breakfast is also a great time. You meals should contain enough protein to make the ICE redundant at these times. However the proof is in the pudding, if you find your recovery suffers you may find you need to take ICE as much as you do; I do find this unlikely though.

ICE contains hydrolysed protein which is like amino acids, however there is no reason why you cant take more. Also creatine woks perfectly with ICE, I am not sure why you think it cant be taken at the same time...go for it!

Question 33: Does this product contain Arginine, if so how much?

(Posted: 23rd Jan, 2008)

Answer: All protein powders contain Arginine. Horleys Ice contains 2589g of Arginine per 100g of powder and 863g of Arginine per 33g serve.

Question 34: Im finding it hard 2 loose weight, but go 2 the gym regularly want 2 try whey isolate what do u recomend?

(Posted: 23rd Jan, 2008)

Answer: Horleys ICE, Ripped or Musashi WPI are great!

Question 35: I'm 23yr old male, 184cm & 82kgs. I play league and have just started gym regularly. My goal is to reach 88kgs but am a hard gainer. I've been taking Awesome mass for the last month and was wondering if I should use it as a pre-workout drink and Ice as a post workout to help gain the weight I need?

(Posted: 29th Jan, 2008)

Answer: No, Use Awesome Mass pre and post training. Also increase calorie dence foods through out the day. Eat peanut butter & banana sandwiches, egg noddles and other high calorie foods.

Its all about the protein hitting the muscle cell...hard gainers need calories!

Consider using Syn-Tec MCT oil and Musashi Creatine Recovery Stack or Syn-Tec Creabolan to pack on more muscle.

Question 36: Why dont whey powders have carbs in them? Ive got vital strenght WPI because i heard whey powder absorbs the quickest. Is it really important to have carbs to gain muscle?

(Posted: 13th Feb, 2008)

Answer: Some do have carbs, that powder doesn't. It is important to have carbs with protein around training times. Simply add in a banana and mix in Rice milk to increase carb content.

Question 37: Is it better to use horleys ice whey before or after meals... and if before meals do i have to wait before i can eat??

(Posted: 13th Feb, 2008)

Answer: It is best to use in between meals and separate from other protein sources. It excels as a protein when used before and after training.

Question 38: Hi iam looking for protein powder/shake with carb content of under 5g per 100g & protein bars with a carb conent of under 10g & protein content is 15-20g. There is a few of us about to start the body trim system and i've been leeft in charge of product reserch. Can you help us?

(Posted: 13th Feb, 2008)

Answer: Most WPC average around 6-7g of carbs per 100g but if you wont to be under that than a WPI like Horleys ICE is the only way to go. Also Horleys Carb Less are the best diet bars on the market with 18-20g of protein and 4g of carbs per bar.

Question 39: Hi I have been working out for a couple of months at home and have just started going to the gym, 5 days a week, what is the most effective way I can lose my love handles. I have purchased Horley's ice, is there any other protein or substance I can take to burn the fat more effectively and also gain musle?

(Posted: 18th Feb, 2008)

Answer: Go to our articles page and read our sample eating plan. Also consider using a thermogenic like Lipo 6 or Hydroxycut Hardcore.

Question 40: Hey mate,

I have been using 3 different mass proteins now (GNC Mass XXX, Int. Protein Extreme Mass and now Horleys Awesome Mass) and I have gained 5-6kgs + mass size. However, I am wanting to lose the fat in my belly while gaining muscle. What protein should I be taking? I have been looking at ICE or RIPPED but I don't know what to get or what is good for my situation. I am 17yo, 66kgs, 175cms and I do weight training 4 days a week.

Cheers?

(Posted: 28th Feb, 2008)

Answer: If you are putting on Fat it shows too many calories in the diet. The best thing to do is use high calorie high carb powders around training times and low or no carb powders through the rest of the day. You can buy a protein powder with no carbs in it and buy extreme carbs or Carbo-Plex to take before and after training with their protein powder.

Question 41: Hi im 19 yrs old nd weight is 60 kgs. as per my hight which is 175 cm im too skinny. i have just started gym. im planning to go 4 days a week. i want to look perect like not too skinny n not too giant. wat do u reckon ?? protein or weight gainer? which one is best in mega mass, no explode or horley ??

(Posted: 20th March, 2008)

Answer: Hi

Its sound that you need to put on some muscle mass and weight, due to your fast metabolism I would recommend a weight gainer.
We stock lots of different weight gainer protein powders
and its hard to say which type of protein powder would suit you due to the different features eg. content of carbohydrate, protein flavour etc.
(the proof is in the pudding).

Some of the most popular protein powders is Horleys Awesome Mass, Syn-Tec Maximus, International Extreme Mass.

Its very important that you get carbohydrate before and after.
When taking before the body will use the carbohydrate for energy so you can perform longer better and protect the muscle tissue due to the body uses this source of energy instead of the amino's, and directly (in 20min) after so the body can use the protein for muscle development/recovery and not for energy.

Good luck!!!

Question 42: I have been goin to gym three to four days a week...I want to gain muscle,look fit,look good and i dun wan to gain any weight or fat...Can i use Awesome Whey??

(Posted: 7th April, 2008)

Answer: Hi

Yes you can use awesome whey, no problem, its also important to be on a good diet as your foundation. due 80% is diet/ recovery and 20 % is training.
if you get a good diet going, you will improve better and with help of the supplementation even better.

As you now protein is is important for our muscle building and recovery, if you are worried about putting on fat i would recommend choosing a protein with low or non-carbohydrate ei. Horleys ice.

just remember that its important to get carbohydrate before and also after for replenishing muscle and liver glycogen stores immediately after exercise is the key to making positive gain and improving exercise performance.

Good luck!!